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chinese supertrains concur the world

Post by roco » 30 Jun 2011, 10:49

Hallo

Today in the newspaper "de telegraaf" . China opens the highspeed line Beijing-Shanghai . This 1318 km long line is only build in 3 years . The traveltime is less than 5 hours . ( the old line needs more than 10 hours traveltime . Because of safety reasons is the speed "limited" to only 300 kmh . It was planed for 330kmh and traveltime was than under 4 hours . Technical can be a speed of 380 kmh reached . The railwayline cost 23 miljard Euro . There is for this year a investment of 75 miljard Euro for highspeedlines .
On rushhours there is every 5 minutes a train . They expected to transport 220.000 people every day . There is free internet on board .
A ticket cost , for a single trip , between €50,00 and €200,00 . There are people who find it to expensive in compare the the plane who is cheaper and faster .
In les than 10 years has China build a highspeednetwork of more than 8000 km ( end last year) . At the end of this year it must be more than 13.000 km and by end 2020 even 16.000 km .
Because of cheap labor and the hugh investments of the chinese gouverment it this possible . They also will that chinese highspeedtrains going to the rest of the world .

regards Jos

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Post by QJ7205 » 30 Jun 2011, 20:27

Very nice, but I will keep on taking the night trains... :)

Scenario 1: HST:

Waking up: 08:00
Departure at hotel in central Beijing: 09:00
Bus (106) to Beijing South: 09:15 - 10:00 (Very optimistic in Beijing traffic during the day...)
On foot to the station: 10:00 - 10:10
Going through luggage scanners: 10:10 - 10:15
Walking to the waiting room: 10:15 - 10:25 (Huge station...)
Waiting time: 10:30 - 10:50
Boarding procedure: 10:50 - 11:00
Departure (Train G125): 11:20
Arrival in Shanghai Hongqiao: 16:50
Getting out of station: 16:50 - 17:00
Going to subway: 17:00 - 17:10
Subway to downtown Shanghai: 17:15 - 17:45
To hotel: 17:50 - 18:00

So you have no "useful" time during daylight hours... :( Sleeping, complete day of travel, eating, sleeping again...

Cost:

Hardseat: RMB 555,-
Softseat: RMB 935,-
Plus two nights in a hotel...

Scenario 2: Classic train:

Departure at hotel in central Beijing: 18:15
Bus to Beijing railway station: 18:20 - 18:35
On foot to the station: 18:35 - 18:40
Going through luggage scanners: 18:40 - 18:45
Walking to the waiting room: 18:45 - 18:50
Waiting time: 18:50 - 19:10
Boarding procedure: 19:10 - 19:15
Departure (Train T109): 19:28
Arrival in Shanghai: 09:16
Getting out of station: 09:20 - 09:30
Going to subway: 09:30 - 09:40
Subway to downtown Shanghai: 09:45 - 10:00
To hotel: 10:00 - 10:05

Two (almost) full days in both Beijing and Shanghai! :)

Cost:

Hardsleeper: RMB 317,-
Softsleeper: RMB 478,-
Plus only one (!) night in a hotel... (One night saved!)

And the Z-trains which were sadly cancelled since last year ( :cry: ) were more than two hours faster than the T-trains...

Conclusion:

I see no reason whatsoever why I should travel by HST... :wink:

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Re: chinese supertrains concur the world

Post by QJ7205 » 30 Jun 2011, 20:35

Either way, here are some pictures:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost. ... count=2562

I must admit it does look impressive... :)

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Re: chinese supertrains concur the world

Post by roco » 14 Jul 2011, 10:25

Hallo

Today in the newspaper "de Telegraaf" . Chinese supertrain dont drive super . Abusive language , crying staff , suffocating
ly hot carriages and delay for many hours .
The new chinese highspeedtrains , the technoligy pride of China , has much miseries . Passengers are in dark , hot carriages for many hours because there is sometime no power . The railway authorities claim that the rain of the last weeks corse the problems . But also on other railwayroutes have problems with still standing trains .

regards Jos

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